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Post  DoubleEdged Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:47 pm

Different outfits. Believe me, everyone knows about THAT outfit, and how it was changed before the Japanese release.

Also, English trailer for SO5.
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Post  Rainday Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:07 pm

Fire Emblem Wikia wrote:Early trailers for Tokyo Mirage Sessions are prefaced with ESRB bumpers indicating that while not yet rated, Nintendo of America expects the game to receive an M rating. In the event that it does, it will be the first Fire Emblem game to receive an ESRB rating of Mature.

...

DoubleEdged wrote:Well, some more news, some of it not so good.

#FE confirmed for Western release. "Tokyo Mirage Sessions, #FE" (TMS... SMT >_>)
Japanese audio only.
Still being heavily censored. All characters aged above 18. Bikinis -> Spats; I know I saw one pic where an outfit that showed some cleavage now has some under-top to cover it up.
Just remember, Japan already hated how this game turned out as it was.

Also, rumors about no Hot Spring DLC and that the localization is being supervised by NINTENDO OF AMERICA.

http://personacentral.com/potential-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-localization-content-changes/

...  I was really... really... looking forward to this...  Pop idols, corruption, cool female characters, a fun looking battle system, colorful... But Nintendo of America refuses to be halted in its mass censorship of titles...  WTF HAPPENED.  We got Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 on the system with no censorship, then we got Hyrule Warriors with Cia intact...
(JUST A REMINDER!)
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AND THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN NoA GET'S SUPER PC AND MAKES IT THEIR MISSION TO FUCK UP EVERY SINGLE RELEASE FROM JAPAN. Even the freaking new Smash Bros DLC...

I just... Games are ART, that's not a opinion, IT'S THE DEFINITION GIVEN BY THE SUPREME COURT IN THEW COUNTRY THAT NoA FINDS ITSELF( http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/06/27/supreme.court.video.game.art/ ).  You don't censor art, PERIOD. Such a thing isn't "oh I wanna see cleavage and thighs", It's a goddamn stab at my morals. Just because something makes you uncomfortable that doesn't give you the freaking right to paint over it and ruin it for everybody else.  Now, I understand games are a business, and that NoA feels the need to make it available to everybody, but if the game was designed to be mature themed from the ground up YOU'RE RUINING IT FOR IT'S INTENDED AUDIENCE TO PLEASE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY WON'T BUY IT EVEN AFTER YOUR FLACCID PAINT JOB.

But hey, let's say that they will actually by it because you altered it to their preference, the ones who would of bought it before, WON'T. Ugh, and so NoA ruins another game for people over the age of 18...

SPEAKING OF WHICH
More fucked up Fire emblem Dialog
https://twitter.com/_icze4r/status/704093145315803136

ART BOOK CENSORING





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So I'm playing Phoenix Wright and enjoying it, just hit case 5, lovely new characters introduced.

That Star Ocean 5 dub cast sounds stellar.
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Post  Rainday Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:23 pm

Okay, kinda blew up there... But you must understand that I was looking forward to these games so much... but since NoA screwed up Fatal Frame 4 by making it digital only and too big for most the hard drive kinda was the first nail in the coffin, then came the avalanche of nails from the Fire Emblem and Bravely Second controversies(from back when they were released into Japan to even now) and Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem was the last...



There were two good things, and one bitter sweet thing... Star Fox 0 looks more like 64 in gameplay style which is great. Apparently they got a negative feedback from gamers about it simply being a dump of Wii U gimmicks and were fixing up that(hence the delays). The best thing from this conference was the new Kirby game, give it a look, it's fantastic... MECHA KIRBY!

The bittersweet thing is New 3DS are getting Super Nintendo games like Mario World and Super Metroid. The downside is they won't work on old 3DSs
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:03 am

Rainday the lowest professional review Fire Emblem Fates has gotten is a 7/10 for the Conquest version. The highest is a 9.5 for I don't remember. The game itself is good despite the censoring done during localization.

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Post  Rosssi Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:49 pm

Okay, so I picked up Bravely second a couple of days ago. Haven't had much time to play so far.

But...

One of the new enemies is the 'Ice Princess' a demon witch on a broomstick. Casts sleep spells and 'Beauteous Blizzard'
The journal entries for this enemy are great, she keeps male victims in blocks of ice under the ground, all with a vacant happy expression on their face. Apparently they feel warm and sleepy before their doom.

No word on female victims, but I'm sure everyone in this group has some ideas.
(I know I do)
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:43 am

Please show a link to a picture or video or post a picture because I live in North America & we don't get the game until April 15th. The demo shows up on Eshop on March 10th though.

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Post  Rainday Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:37 pm

Hornofdesolation wrote:Please show a link to a picture or video or post a picture because I live in North America & we don't get the game until April 15th. The demo shows up on Eshop on March 10th though.

Actually if you're a Best Buy Gamers member you get it tomorrow(the 7th)

Hornofdesolation wrote:Rainday the lowest professional review Fire Emblem Fates has gotten is a 7/10 for the Conquest version. The highest is a 9.5 for I don't remember. The game itself is good despite the censoring done during localization.
*Despite the censoring and poor localization/gross negligence in which lines(both voiced and actual dialog) are cut, characters are altered, a gameplay element was removed as well as all the dialog associated with it, memes are thrown in, and they didn't bother to put any effort into the lesbian route and just copy/pasted the hetero romance... (I have pointed out examples of all these in my posts beforehand)

Most of which wasn't known until a week or more after it's American release(hence a week and few days before most review were made). All that being said, the game is still "good" because the main plot and gameplay are mostly the same... And for most people, that's good enough, but I wasn't look forward to Fire Emblem Fates, I was looking forward to Fire Emblem IF, and they are not the same game anymore. Instead it's in my view, inferior, and many of the things I was looking forward to were paid a great disrespect...

It's like Smile Precure and Glitter Force to me basically. Things are cheapen, dulled, and altered just because a group of people went "let's 'improve' this and make it appeal to the widest market"(aka the lowest common denominator), and it physically sickens me. Makes me feel like I or fans of the series don't matter to them. So I wouldn't have any fun playing the current version and would be repulsed.

One of the new enemies is the 'Ice Princess' a demon witch on a broomstick. Casts sleep spells and 'Beauteous Blizzard'
The journal entries for this enemy are great, she keeps male victims in blocks of ice under the ground, all with a vacant happy expression on their face. Apparently they feel warm and sleepy before their doom.

No word on female victims, but I'm sure everyone in this group has some ideas.
(I know I do)

Nifty.
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Post  Rosssi Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:21 pm

Okay.. Since all technology seems to hate me today.
I had to use my phone to take pictures on the DS, then upload them to Deviantart (for some reason the forum won't do it.


http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/IP1-595118456
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/I-P2-595119077
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip3-595119240
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip4-595119645
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip5-595120138?q=in%3Ascraps%20sort%3Atime%20gallery%3AFlynnco-Industries&qo=1
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip6-595120502?q=in%3Ascraps%20sort%3Atime%20gallery%3AFlynnco-Industries&qo=0
http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip7-595121181

http://flynnco-industries.deviantart.com/art/Ip8-595121429

Judging by the bestiary, I'm guessing there will be 4 variations on the 'witch' family. I haven't had a chance to get much farther yet, but updates when I find them.

Also, not sure if this is just coincidence, but I've noticed that she only seems to use 'Sleep" on Male characters and 'Beauteous Blizzard' on female.
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Post  Hornofdesolation Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:04 am

Thanks for the pictures. Rainday while I too dislike the Glitter Force localization because of similar reasons to yours and because of the fact the original Pretty Cure series already got an English Dub made in the UK, the fact of the matter is that Saban did the same with Power Rangers & several other series that succeeded quite well. I'm sure there were similar complaints to yours at the time of course but we might never have known of the series in any way if it weren't for efforts like this. So try to look at it like that.

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Post  DoubleEdged Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:16 pm

Well this actually brings in a little bit of hype-
https://twitter.com/XSEEDGames/
The past few hours of tweets anyways.

I like how this tweeter linked to this-
https://futsure.wordpress.com/table-of-contents/
(Rainday, you may have to actually play Shinovi Versus to understand what this means)
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Post  Rosssi Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:48 am

Wow. Di one of you guys have a hand in making bravely Second?
Played a little farther, have encountered harpies that remind be of siren from FFVIII and just now a Mummy girl with what look like bandage tentacles for ensnaring. She even has an attack called 'Sleeping beauty'
I'm hoping this trend of Monstergirls continues.
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Post  Rainday Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:30 pm

Hornofdesolation wrote:Thanks for the pictures. Rainday while I too dislike the Glitter Force localization because of similar reasons to yours and because of the fact the original Pretty Cure series already got an English Dub made in the UK, the fact of the matter is that Saban did the same with Power Rangers & several other series that succeeded quite well. I'm sure there were similar complaints to yours at the time of course but we might never have known of the series in any way if it weren't for efforts like this. So try to look at it like that.

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But those localizations were aimed at making those series more kid friendly and dumbed down. Any attempt to do that to series meant for older audiences, while popular at first, has always faltered due to fan demand for the original. See Dragon Ball Z, One Piece, and now even Sailor Moon, all taken away from their original US rights holders and restored to their original release states with great dubs. However what we are talking about are games made for teens and adults, and unfortunately they don't have that same chance.

However, I have new evidence that the European version of Bravely Second has removed something very near and dear to our hearts.
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http://www.gamezone.com/news/bravely-second-localization-has-seemingly-butchered-the-game-3434305
http://nintendoeverything.com/bravely-seconds-european-version-always-gives-players-a-good-ending-with-sidequests/

It appears the trend of cutting dialog(both written and voiced) has extended not only to Fire Emblem Fates, but Bravely Second as well. The European version is apparently cutting ALL bad endings from side quest. They are taking story experiences and choice out of the game and apparently this affects the game's main ending as well. So the game will no longer reflect your decisions by not giving you any to make.

With this I would like to bring a popular theory that has become apparent ever since the Fire Emblem cut and memed dialog. The current localization process is not only about censorship, but also cutting cost by not having to properly translate lines, pay voice actors to voice dialog that were voiced in the japanese version, and straight up rewriting characters into their own versions so as to not properly convey them. These are instead rushed hack jobs that don't even deserve to be known as localizations.

And here is my evidence
DoubleEdged wrote:1988 audio files removed
ONE THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED, EIGHTY EIGHT
And now there's a video Q&A with the actress of Azura/Aqua about how little info the actors received about their parts, which she's now on Twitter claiming what she said was sarcasm, that people that published articles based on that interview are full of hate.
https://twitter.com/mombot/status/701858966557437952
https://twitter.com/ProjectAria/status/701960578651140096
https://twitter.com/_icze4r/status/704093145315803136
http://dashingicecream.tumblr.com/post/139984153572/dominion-tophat-treehouse-localization-fucked

AND MORE AND MORE OF THIS STUFF IS LEAKING OUT DAY BY DAY.

I purpose that Nintendo of America and Europe's actions are now indefensible if you care anything at all for RPGs.
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Post  Rainday Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:29 pm

DoubleEdged wrote:Well this actually brings in a little bit of hype-
https://twitter.com/XSEEDGames/
The past few hours of tweets anyways.

I like how this tweeter linked to this-
https://futsure.wordpress.com/table-of-contents/
(Rainday, you may have to actually play Shinovi Versus to understand what this means)

Okay, calming time.


Hehehe I checked this before I went to spent to bed and spent my time trying to find a better quality picture of Katsuragi's boob empire... I can't believe I totally missed that because it was in Bon Appetite, but that is the perfect picture and worth a sighting I say( apparently all the girls in her kingdom let her do whatever she wants to them, and with the line up of harem girls she has in that picture that definitely has to be MC).

But yeah, I may just take up watching run throughs of Shinovi Versus for the story since I have no plans to pick up a Vita anytime soon. On the plus side I am cashing some paychecks soon so I'll have enough to preorder Estival Versus. I still need to get Crimson 2 as well but there will be time for that. Looking forward to all the new mechanics =)

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Post  Rosssi Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:52 pm

Well, that looks like a nice little empire.

As for the localization censorship.... That'swhy I avoid the Internet.
I can be perfectly happy playing a game until I find out what I'm missing.
I'm a little upset about the 'no bad ending' but I guess that all the characters did get killed off a few times in the original, so maybe they deserve a break.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go 'fight' dancing Mummy girls.
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Post  Rosssi Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:01 pm

Played a bit farther in Bravely Second.
The Succubi from the original return with charm attacks in the Mithril mines (same appearance as before.)
New enemy in the forgotten aqueduct is the Witch, uses the same base as the ice princess, but with pale blue shin and a heavier fringe over the eyes (hair is black with pink tips) thigh highs are a red colour. Uses fire attacks and 'Bewitch' to charm party members. Wink My new favourite enemy.
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Post  Rosssi Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:25 am

An update on the side quest endings for bravely second.




On a personal note I am enjoying them as you see the positive and negative outcomes of your choice, there isn't a perfect choice, it comes down to your own values (or what job asterisk you want)
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Post  Rainday Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:06 pm

Rosssi wrote:An update on the side quest endings for bravely second.

".There are no good or bad endings. To explain: The first time a decision was made on either side of the sidequest, no matter which Asterisk was chosen, Edea could be seen second guessing herself and her decision. Upon the time reset, if the exact same decision was made again, choosing the same asterisk as before the time reset, Edea could be seen more sure of her decision. This meant that a player would have to play through the entire game twice to get 100% completion and all asterisks. The localization removed at least some of the endings where Edea was unsure of herself, cutting down on redundancy. Or more, a player would have to play through the game three times, if they wanted all the asterisks first, and all cutscenes later. After the outcry regarding Default's repetition, is there any wonder this was removed?"


On a personal note I am enjoying them as you see the positive and negative outcomes of your choice, there isn't a perfect choice, it comes down to your own values (or what job asterisk you want)

... Interesting... Though I'm still a little hazy on the details as to what was lost... Endings where Edea was unsure? I suppose if they meant that they replaced endings where Edea was questioning herself but didn't affect the outcome, that might be something...

Also, I heard that there was a bunch of audio issues for the demo, most noticeably whenever females spoke(most notably Magnolia) that made them sound like they had a lisp... Supposable this was due to sound compression for the demo's sake... I've also heard that there might be a little bit in the main game, but it shouldn't be nearly as bad as the demo... Still until the game comes out I have no way of confirming that it get's better... And I heard Magnolia and OW.

Anyway it's been a really rough week, but I finally got to play some Estival Versus finally yesterday, so very fun and pretty(keep in mind I'm coming into this from Burst). Completed the first two "sections" of missions which were enjoyable. Also did some editing with the diorama... Nothing major but the heart effects raise possibilities~ Now I just need to find a good way to transfer them over...
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Post  DoubleEdged Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:16 pm

Rainday wrote:Anyway it's been a really rough week, but I finally got to play some Estival Versus finally yesterday, so very fun and pretty(keep in mind I'm coming into this from Burst). Completed the first two "sections" of missions which were enjoyable.  Also did some editing with the diorama...  Nothing major but the heart effects raise possibilities~  Now I just need to find a good way to transfer them over...

Having just finished the game, I do have a major recommendation for research before you get too far.
Shinovi Versus stories:
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Post  Rainday Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:35 pm

DoubleEdged wrote:
Rainday wrote:Anyway it's been a really rough week, but I finally got to play some Estival Versus finally yesterday, so very fun and pretty(keep in mind I'm coming into this from Burst). Completed the first two "sections" of missions which were enjoyable.  Also did some editing with the diorama...  Nothing major but the heart effects raise possibilities~  Now I just need to find a good way to transfer them over...

Having just finished the game, I do have a major recommendation for research before you get too far.
Shinovi Versus stories:

It was certainly feeling that way. Especially in the OVA that came with the japanese game that is a little prequel to all this(nothing too special, it's just the hot spring's incident they keep referring to, nipples, and gaintess). Even that was more geared to Gessen though. I know the basic's of the backstory for them and of most of the Hebijo girls too, just not the inbetweens.

I'll do some more reading on them and maybe watch some stuff.
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Post  Rainday Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:21 am

Senran Kagura breathes good vibes into me...  It's so nice after a long bad week.

Notes
Mirai's bracelet says something quite amusing(besides her Star Platinum Jojo references on her other clothing).
I made Yozakura by giving her the Nanako(P4) haircut, and also the bangs haircut(when transformed) which make her look like a grunt/flunkie.
Make Ikaruga stand out more by giving her the dealers outfit with a devil tail and bunny ears.
Beat Murakumo's story, quite enjoyable, also found out that's how you get characters hair available for other characters.
I just beat day 3 or 4 of the main game, sometimes it really feels like you need to level every character early with these horrid rankings I'm getting, but then again that might also be due to character unfamiliarity(had to actually retire twice with Kafuru)
Imu is precious virgin maiden that is all about that perfect crime.
Hikage is super troll
Wow has Yagyuu got a lot more open about her feelings towards Hibari instead of being a super Edgelord

Still, lot's of fun~
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Post  Rainday Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:39 pm

OUT OF THE WAY!

I SOMEHOW MISSED THIS BUT IT'S LIKE A DAMN DREAM COME TRUE!

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/15/fateextella-announced-for-playstation-4-and-playstation-vita/
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/15/fateextella-sounds-like-itll-series-first-musou-style-game/
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/15/fateextella-features-fategrand-orders-altera-tamamo-no-mae-and-more/
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/16/fateextellas-first-screenshots-show-off-its-musou-style-action/
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/22/fateextella-gives-us-closer-look-nero-tamamo-no-mae-altera/

FATE/EXTRA + DYNASTY WARRIORS!
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I've been giddy all day about this!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~!!!

Now excuse me while I bagger every form of Marvelous/XSEED I can to bring it over!

FEEL FREE TO JOIN ME!
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https://twitter.com/FateEXTELLA
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Post  DrgnmastrAlex Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:44 pm

I heard about this last week on the Fate/Grand Order subreddit. Razz

Here's hoping it comes out in the West.
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Post  Hornofdesolation Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:09 am

That's improbable but not impossible.

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Post  Rainday Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:38 pm

Well the only thing we can do is let them know we want it, for this very concept was a dream, so dream the dream and it will become reality =)  Plus we got Fate/Extra.

Adding to more links to post.
https://twitter.com/FateEXTELLA
http://fate-extella.jp/

Feel free to copy/paste that info to anyone you might know and join me in telling them WE WANT IT

Also, Saber Nero is the most precious of the Saber clones, a noble ojou-sama with a "praise me praise me" attitude and Tamamo is most caring, funny, flirty, and vengeful wife regardless of gender. Nero will also care deeply for you and remark how beautiful you are.
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/704493?tags=fate%2Fextra+comic
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Post  DrgnmastrAlex Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:53 pm

Rainday wrote:Well the only thing we can do is let them know we want it, for this very concept was a dream, so dream the dream and it will become reality =)  Plus we got Fate/Extra.

We didn't get Extra CCC, though. *cries*
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