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Post  Rainday Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:40 pm



So it's Kasumi and Phase 4 as the Yatterman duo, and Momiji as Majo(hair color threw me off). Male costumes are actually pretty cool this time around too.

Also, costume destruction~

But yeah, got unstuck in Shantae, friend gave me some false info about being able to get a warp squid, so I was mostly playing Triforce Heroes. Got to the frozen zone while making as much outfits as much as possible. I am worried about getting those ones that require friendship tokens... I think those are only when you play with someone locally, and I'm not sure if you can get multiple from the same person on different sessions...
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:20 am

The newest Super Robot Wars Original Generation games has been announced. It's called the Moon Dwellers & will be for PS3 & PS4. It's supposed to be 3rd Super Robot Wars Original Generation but they dropped the number because they thought it would turn away buyers.

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Post  DoubleEdged Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:39 pm

People that were looking into buying Fire Emblem: Fates.

EVERYTHING IS CENSORED
VOICEWORK IS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:15 pm

It's a Nintendo game. Of course something will be censored. Are you saying the English voice acting is bad or the Japanese voice acting is bad?

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Post  DoubleEdged Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:16 pm

English. I DON'T CRITICIZE ENGLISH LIGHTLY.

... Problem is, I heard a Camilla clip. NOPE!
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Post  Rainday Sat Jan 30, 2016 7:42 pm

I not a fan of Nintendo's handling teen-mature games recently... Mostly their removing of features from ill informed outcry of people who aren't going to play the game... or for no reason they care to inform anyone about... That's all I can say without blowing my top...

More progress in Triforce Heroes... even though my friend still hasn't started play it... so that's a lonely trek... Fun, but still... I should find a game that allows me to play by myself... I got stuck in Shanate again... the next area has these bits with ramps leading down to them that the moment you touch you slide to your death... So that's no fun...
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Post  Nightington Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:21 am

Considering what was 'censored' from Fates, I'm still buying and enjoying my Collector's Edition. The stuff that was taken out was frankly utterly superfluous to the gameplay, which is what I care about most with the games proper. It's very unlikely that the removed sections would satisfy my perverse desires to any extent anyhow; better to let fanart do that, and with some of these character designs, I'm banking on the Internet delivering plenty there.

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Post  Rainday Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:47 pm

I warned you.

Nightington wrote:Considering what was 'censored' from Fates, I'm still buying and enjoying my Collector's Edition. The stuff that was taken out was frankly utterly superfluous to the gameplay, which is what I care about most with the games proper. It's very unlikely that the removed sections would satisfy my perverse desires to any extent anyhow; better to let fanart do that, and with some of these character designs, I'm banking on the Internet delivering plenty there.


Except the petting minigame which actually allowed you to increased units affection for you out of battle, a series first...
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/01/26/western-versions-fire-emblem-fates-lacks-touching-minigame/

And then of course there's the whole Soleil thing... That character trope of "oh women are so beautiful, but I'm still straight" that the japanese love so much... Which of course was mistaken in the west for "gay conversion" even though you couldn't romance her as a female in the first place(regrettably) as ALL of her possible romantic partners are male. So what did Nintendo do? I don't know, they didn't say besides they removed some "dialog" and no one has bothered to report on it since. For all I know they could of removed her "weakness" for pretty girls. So yeah, just because Nintendo of America said they would handle it no one has bothered to look and see what they did going "Oh we don't care anymore". LAZY CONTROVERSY STIRRING PARASITES

But yeah, by all means, don't raise a finger as Nintendo of America continues their PC whitewashing with this
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/02/01/bravely-second-officially-changes-tomahawk-class-hawkeye-class/
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Post  Quartz Falcon Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:39 pm

Eh, I know of at least two people on another forum who weren't going to buy Fates until that stuff got cut off. So there's an audience to draw, which should make up for the ones who got driven off by the nickel & diming.

As for the Tomahawk whitewashing... when the one Native representation is a Fantasy Indian whose role in the plot is to get killed by the heroes and have her attire appropriated? Yes, you whitewash that stuff.
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Post  Rainday Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:50 am

Quartz Falcon wrote:Eh, I know of at least two people on another forum who weren't going to buy Fates until that stuff got cut off. So there's an audience to draw, which should make up for the ones who got driven off by the nickel & diming.

As for the Tomahawk whitewashing... when the one Native representation is a Fantasy Indian whose role in the plot is to get killed by the heroes and have her attire appropriated? Yes, you whitewash that stuff.

... At this point in time I'm wondering if I should've said in my first mention of this topic that "censorship is my trigger" to make more sense... But I digress...

I could use the lazy argument of she's not a native american because this game doesn't take place on earth or have a america in it, thus freeing this character from all our dark history to be her own character, but that's not satisfying...  

This isn't either, but it's the other side of this coin....

So you are saying they should remove the Native "American" representation completely and turn the diverse individual into a white and southern cowgirl...  Thus replacing the Native "American" with the race that helped wipe them out.  That is the better solution for this? A pity too, as I heard that quite a few native americans were looking forward to their fantasy representation, one that is sorely underrepresented.  However I don't have a direct source for that, but I can't find a source saying the opposite either...  

Anyway, point is, politically correctness has been used and turned into a fear based weapon wielded by those who "get offended for others" more often than not, and this has consequences on the gaming industry as a whole.

If I may quote
Jonathan Holmes of destructoid.com wrote:Sadly, this fear of offending minorities is one of the reasons that so many minority characters in games are cut, or never planned to begin with. The only way to be sure you won't offend anyone is to not say anything at all. The downside is, that's also a sure fire way to be a lot more boring and noninclusive.

But you know what, I found a quote that better represents how I feel about the whole thing
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry

Now, feel free to have the last word on this, but I'm done with this (until Nintendo of America steps in the next pothole). I don't like arguing/debating at all, I've said my piece so I'm good, so feel free to have yours and please understand that any emotions that have derived from this topic for me will stay here and not affect anything else as I respect both of you for your contributions.
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Post  DrgnmastrAlex Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:00 pm

I'm in agreement with you on this, Rainday.  The levels of censorship that are taking place borderline on the absurd, and political correctness has gotten so bad that comedians who have gotten some fame are now avoiding college campuses due to the fear of someone taking offense and filing a complaint or civil suit against them or the college.  Satire and creative license shouldn't be stifled because someone got salty.  Once controversial issues have their language controlled, or certain people are not allowed to discuss or critique groups, you're delving into the realm of tyranny.

We're in Orwellian times, and have been since at least when Woodrow Wilson was president.  I'm of the opinion that speech, debate, and criticism should be unrestricted, save for the individual taking responsibility for their words and owning up to what they say.  At least this way I know who's bigoted from who's making legitimate criticism or satirizing a group or issue.

Anyway, done with my political philosophizing. Knowing what's happened with FE: Fates, I'm not going to bother getting the game. Vote with your wallet if you dislike the direction something is being taken in. Nintendo will likely get the message if enough people don't bother getting the game.
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Post  shirokami Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:03 pm

The whole thing was stupid waifu/husbando bait to begin with. That said I dislike the idea of translators fucking with what the actual developers made in any way other than making the text readable.

Regardless I ended up deciding not to buy it after getting generally bored with the series and seeing how much it would cost to actually buy.
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Post  Nightington Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:45 pm

Well, it looks like the changes were a lot less than expected when it came to the 'petting' mechanic - the invite scenes still play out the same, except that you don't touch the screen.

Source:
http://serenesforest.net/2016/02/04/finally-video-confirmation-of-skinship-changes/#more-31156

No word on the change to That One Support and how they handled that, but it looks like 'Minimum necessary to avoid seeming utterly creepy to a general audience' is the rule of the day for this one.

(Still wish that they'd just restricted the breast slider in Xenoblade Chronicles X, rather than killed it entirely. Sad )

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Post  Rainday Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:15 am

Nightington wrote:Well, it looks like the changes were a lot less than expected when it came to the 'petting' mechanic - the invite scenes still play out the same, except that you don't touch the screen.

Source:
http://serenesforest.net/2016/02/04/finally-video-confirmation-of-skinship-changes/#more-31156

No word on the change to That One Support and how they handled that, but it looks like 'Minimum necessary to avoid seeming utterly creepy to a general audience' is the rule of the day for this one.

(Still wish that they'd just restricted the breast slider in Xenoblade Chronicles X, rather than killed it entirely. Sad )

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... So I watched that one, and then I watched the Japanese version with the same character...

Nintendo of America

0:20-0:36

Nintendo of Japan

(whole vid)

So What Was Missing from the Nintendo of America? Adorable nervous little sister reacting to your petting with various facial expressions and lines not in the western release. Why does this annoy me, it seems so small and it's only around 50 seconds(per character(/per session depending if the dialog changes)). Well, it's because each character reacts in their own way to being petted that gives you a more intimate understanding of them... And you're not really spending time with them... Just flashing through it. Also during the event you can look them over, the scroll option still appears to be there, you just don't have much time it seems...

However, I did notice one thing that ACTUALLY explain why it was removed.

Here's petting with Syalla/Rhajat at the start...

Here's it at S rank.

Basically a few light moans, but I'm sure in NOA's eyes it was nightmare fuel of people's kids getting seduced by the virtual characters... Or they were afraid the touching someone's face would be "creepy" to a western audience... I guess... Nintendo of America won't say... I mean, Feel the Magic XY/XX as well as Senran Kagura got away scot-free with worse... But those weren't published by Nintendo of America... and other than a few rumblings on tumblr I heard of petting being "weird" I didn't hear anyone protest about it on the level of Soliel or the two gay/bi characters being "offensive stereotypes"(people complaining Zero/Niles was a full on "sadist" while Syalla/Rhajat was "detestable") ... Thankfully that second one never got any traction with NOA...

It's nice that the affection mechanic is still in, but it's still a bunch of bullshit to me. But at least we finally have a clear picture, thank you Nightington for this.

Still have yet to hear about how they "gentrified" Soliel... and unless they made her actually gay I don't want to.
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Post  DoubleEdged Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:06 pm

An unfortunate turn for Senran Kagura: Estival Versus-

- Ikkitousen characters will not be available outside of the Japanese version. Playing against said characters (Japanese versus rest of world?) will re-skin those characters from your viewpoint. Unfortunately, licensing the use of these characters over here was not a feasible task, but unlike censorship, this can't be blamed on the devs or the localizers. Ayane (Dead or Alive) will still be coming (and I assumed as much, that TecmoKoei would be much more reasonable in this regard).

You can read about it on this update page.
http://estivalversus.com/updates/
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Post  Nightington Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:40 pm

Good to see Estival Versus is coming as complete as possible. Pity they won't even sell the re-skins, though.

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Post  Rainday Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:34 am

Ugh... that kinda sucks... but at least it's not the core game, and it is understandable considering 3 different companies in the US alone own the rights to various parts of Ikki Tousen... *sees Pegi* I wonder if the American release will be as lackluster as Senran Kagura 2's release was compared to it's European release.
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Post  DoubleEdged Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:01 pm

Rainday wrote: I wonder if the American release will be as lackluster as Senran Kagura 2's release was compared to it's European release.

http://www.amazon.com/Senran-Kagura-Estival-Versus-Endless-PlayStation/dp/B0194VWT5Y/

-Artbook
-Pinup cards (chosen at random for each package)
-Soundtrack (2 CDs worth)

That's already pretty damn good, but the European team must really like going the extra mile. No idea what is going on with those dakimakuras.
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Post  Rainday Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:49 pm

DoubleEdged wrote:
Rainday wrote: I wonder if the American release will be as lackluster as Senran Kagura 2's release was compared to it's European release.

http://www.amazon.com/Senran-Kagura-Estival-Versus-Endless-PlayStation/dp/B0194VWT5Y/

-Artbook
-Pinup cards (chosen at random for each package)
-Soundtrack (2 CDs worth)

That's already pretty damn good, but the European team must really like going the extra mile. No idea what is going on with those dakimakuras.

ARTBOOK! There we go, that's all I need. Now to hope I have enough money after my monitor purchase.

Also, holding back on Tri Force Heroes until my friend gets interested in it... and saw that the Project X Zone 2 Demo is up, so I went into that... I went into the crosspedia to see if there was any new systems, but damn, they really explain everything multiple times, still reading it out of habit.
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:50 pm

Fire Emblem Fates' Western Release Won't Include Japanese Audio
You may resume complaining about Fire Emblem Fates voice acting with my blessings now. I will still reserve judgement on my own personal opinion on the matter.

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Post  DoubleEdged Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:20 pm

GODDAMMIT, SQUAREENIX!!!



Stop making me want to come back!

-WARRING TRIAD (FF6 now gets its second reference in the game. Just need to figure out which one Sephirot represents- Demon, or Fiend? Certainly isn't Goddess)
-CALCABRINA (FF4 getting another reference. First was ADS, in my opinion, you never saw it anywhere but FF4 and FF14 in Coil of Bahamut)
-LOOK AT THAT AWESOME SCENERY!
-LOOK AT THAT AWESOME RAIL GRINDING!
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Post  shirokami Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:27 pm

You know you want to. We even get new primal themed outfits this patch. I am so happy for my new Garuda Dragoon set.
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Post  DoubleEdged Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:32 pm

shirokami wrote:You know you want to. We even get new primal themed outfits this patch. I am so happy for my new Garuda Dragoon set.

Yeah, I just saw that too. And a nice looking Shiva set for Casters. I would definitely assume one of the yet to be shown sets to be the Tremor Armor of Fending (Titan for Tanks).
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Post  shirokami Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:37 pm

Probably. All three of the "unrevealed" sets can be seen in the trailer, but not very well. The tanks look to be wearing something brown but without the glowing yellow lines i'd expect from Titan gear.
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Post  Hornofdesolation Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:11 pm

What is the 1st FFVI reference? Also: RELEASE THE FIEND!!!

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